Want to see some, but it is not to be seen for viewers outside the USA.
So the rest of the world has to do without!
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A game that might be of particular interest on a site like this is being played today...Army v. Navy. Both branches have officer schools, West Point and Annapolis, and both schools field footballs teams. It's one of the great traditions in college football. Neither team is outstanding...if you go to W. P. or Ann. you've got at least a two year commitment to the service so it's extremely rare for a professional prospect to go to one of the academys, but it's a great game.
I spent four years of my life in the US Army, so...GO NAVY!!!
Also, a little tid-bit that might be interesting to y'all, Army is playing in camoflauge uniforms today
. It's the funky computer generated kind...it's on the pants, helmets and numbers.
There's another little game being played in Atlanta, Georgia this afternoon that I might have a thing or two to say about later.
I spent four years of my life in the US Army, so...GO NAVY!!!
Also, a little tid-bit that might be interesting to y'all, Army is playing in camoflauge uniforms today
. It's the funky computer generated kind...it's on the pants, helmets and numbers.
There's another little game being played in Atlanta, Georgia this afternoon that I might have a thing or two to say about later.
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The University of Florida Fighting Gators are YOUR 2008 Southeastern Conference Champions!!!!!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... wD94TI08G4
One of the best games I've seen in a couple of years...thank goodness it turned out right.
Next up...the BCS National Championship Game!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... wD94TI08G4
One of the best games I've seen in a couple of years...thank goodness it turned out right.
Next up...the BCS National Championship Game!
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efb - Posts: 755
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I'm drunk now Peter.
It's official, after winning the SEC Championship, the Gators will be meet the Oklahoma Sooners in Miami on January 8th for the National Title.
Below, while it lasts, is the drive that scored the winning touchdown...just the CBS broadcast...no Nickleback or Fiftycent...just Vern and Gary calling the game. Aside from discovering the series of events that led to the drunken Blue and Orange post above...they do a very good job of explaining the drive. If you're interested in how the game works this is a great clip...and a GREAT DRIVE!!!
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It's official, after winning the SEC Championship, the Gators will be meet the Oklahoma Sooners in Miami on January 8th for the National Title.
Below, while it lasts, is the drive that scored the winning touchdown...just the CBS broadcast...no Nickleback or Fiftycent...just Vern and Gary calling the game. Aside from discovering the series of events that led to the drunken Blue and Orange post above...they do a very good job of explaining the drive. If you're interested in how the game works this is a great clip...and a GREAT DRIVE!!!
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efb - Posts: 755
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adamparsons wrote:Dude In a touchdown, does the ball not have to be touched down so to speak? And what sthe deal with when a throw is caught, is that kinda stop and lay again from the new yard marker?
You only have to break the plane of the goal line with possession of the ball. Do you have to touch it down in Rugby Football?* If so it's just left over.
When a ball is caught the runner is still live until he's either tackled or steps out of bounds. I think in every catch from that clip the reciever was either immediately tackled or run out of bounds.
*I will be refering to Rugby as Rugby Football from here on out. It is traditional and will help in my on going effort to do what the idiots at teh NFL couldn't do...introduce, not shove down, this great game to our friends across the Atlantic...
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efb - Posts: 755
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Ah K, yes the tackled immediately after- its similar in rugby (it ain't football as very little kicking of the ball involved, and football is played by ponces. You'd be better of calling it american rugby) well you can play on in rugby unless the player is stopped and layed down, then depending how the player is different ways of proceeding occur.
The ball does indeed need to touch down in rugby, hence the rather unusual term 'touchdown' funny that eh?
anyhoo- I got some lancers to paint! laters all
The ball does indeed need to touch down in rugby, hence the rather unusual term 'touchdown' funny that eh?
anyhoo- I got some lancers to paint! laters all
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It's to illustrate why American Football came to be called football. I am now convinced that the name didn't come from any confusion abotu organized sports..."rugby football" was a term in use...that's where it comes from.
Although, in the late 19th century, a lot of the writing about the game makes direct comparisons with, what we, using an English term, call Soccer. Mainly it's to make an observation that is common between rugby and football...American football, like rugby football
, is a brutal game played by gentlmen (at the time it was mainly an Ivy League game...YALE, harvard, etc.) where as soccer is played by the sons of coal miners and other undesirables... .
The tackling rule is different in college than it is in the pros. In college once your knee hit the ground you're down...in the pro's you have to be touched while down. In other words in college if you fell with the ball -you're down whether touched or not. In the pros if you fell with the ball and nobody touched you -you can get back up and run.
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efb - Posts: 755
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fine dude, you come and tell my school mates its actually 'rugby football'... I'll hold your teeth for you. If you are looking to convert us, then trying to be a pendant baout rugby is sooo not gonna help your cause.
Yale/Havard, and Coal miners sons, thats about equal same class wise right?, so maybe you are right, maybe its is football=american football
If you are looking to convert us, then trying to be a pendant baout rugby is sooo not gonna help your cause.
Yale/Havard, and Coal miners sons, thats about equal same class wise right?, so maybe you are right, maybe its is football=american football
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No no I would never force the issue about what you should call rugby...never even suggest it...I'm only pointing out the connection between the names and how American football which is obviously a rugby derivative became football. As for walking around insisting that rugby be called rugby football..no I'm not a moron...for the most part anyway.
Some of these old articles are so dismissive of people it's kind of funny.
Does this idea that rugby is an upperclass game still persist?
Some of these old articles are so dismissive of people it's kind of funny.
Does this idea that rugby is an upperclass game still persist?
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Its a league and union split.
union is played by solicitors, i think from what you have told me its the most like american football. The rules are the original rugby rules, more stops which (dependign on your point of view) either interupt the flow of the game, or build tension.
League is basically plyed by miners sons and young lads from wigan. (er go as a 'blue collar' sport will never get the backing) It has a more fluid game play, less stoping, more pauses as the rule system is simplified.
There are a lot of grass roots league teams, but the southerners and posh universitys play union as its 'old school' so league will never have a chance.
But basically league is what the miners sons and other scrotes play.
Football is playes by scousers, mancs, cockneys and other undesirables.
Tackling in both cases involves bringing the players armsholding the ball into contact with the ground, whilst the tacklers still maintains hold of him (so if he's tripped he can carry on, they have to stop him dead) when he' sbrought down he has to release the ball, or pass it back, if not then foul is called. In league 6 tackles in a row lead to the ball being given to the other side, this doesn't apply in union, it only stops if afoul i scaled, or the ball goes into touch.
union is played by solicitors, i think from what you have told me its the most like american football. The rules are the original rugby rules, more stops which (dependign on your point of view) either interupt the flow of the game, or build tension.
League is basically plyed by miners sons and young lads from wigan. (er go as a 'blue collar' sport will never get the backing) It has a more fluid game play, less stoping, more pauses as the rule system is simplified.
There are a lot of grass roots league teams, but the southerners and posh universitys play union as its 'old school' so league will never have a chance.
But basically league is what the miners sons and other scrotes play.
Football is playes by scousers, mancs, cockneys and other undesirables.
Tackling in both cases involves bringing the players armsholding the ball into contact with the ground, whilst the tacklers still maintains hold of him (so if he's tripped he can carry on, they have to stop him dead) when he' sbrought down he has to release the ball, or pass it back, if not then foul is called. In league 6 tackles in a row lead to the ball being given to the other side, this doesn't apply in union, it only stops if afoul i scaled, or the ball goes into touch.
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It makes sense then that A Football would look more like Union Rugby...given the original social conitations of the game. Like the architecture at Yale...it was an imitation of their trans-atlantic "peers."
As you probably gathered watching the clip in A Football you have four downs to get a first down...10 yards from the initial line of scrimmage. If you lose 5 yards on first down...you've got 15 yards to make a first down, and so on. Normally, unless it's very close, or late in the game, etc. a team will choose to punt the ball away on 4th down because if they don't get it the ball's turned over.
The tackling rules in Football used to be much more like those in rugby. If the ball carrier was moving so much as a finger...he was still live. There's some great old footage of these games...ball carrier's picked up from behind and he kicks the tackler that's coming to his front right in the chest . I have a pretty good idea how that rule got changed. Too many arguments about whether the player was down or not and where the ball should be spotted...which is a crucial thing considering the issue of downs.
As you probably gathered watching the clip in A Football you have four downs to get a first down...10 yards from the initial line of scrimmage. If you lose 5 yards on first down...you've got 15 yards to make a first down, and so on. Normally, unless it's very close, or late in the game, etc. a team will choose to punt the ball away on 4th down because if they don't get it the ball's turned over.
The tackling rules in Football used to be much more like those in rugby. If the ball carrier was moving so much as a finger...he was still live. There's some great old footage of these games...ball carrier's picked up from behind and he kicks the tackler that's coming to his front right in the chest
. I have a pretty good idea how that rule got changed. Too many arguments about whether the player was down or not and where the ball should be spotted...which is a crucial thing considering the issue of downs.-
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Very nice discussion you have here guys. But for me it's simple.
Football = Soccer (voetbal in Dutch)
Rugby stays rugby (a sport for real man)
American Football = is a sport with some kind of robots on the field, waiting for the end of the commercial to go on with the game! 
Greetings Peter
Football = Soccer (voetbal in Dutch)
Rugby stays rugby (a sport for real man)
American Football = is a sport with some kind of robots on the field, waiting for the end of the commercial to go on with the game!
Greetings Peter
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You are hopeless! If you can look upon the greatest uniform in A. Football, have to give the nod to Alabama on that one, and still come away seeing Power Rangers...what can I say???? 
We will be discussing the issue of pads...I know it's a big hang up, but I would think the uniforms would be of some interest on a site like this...and why there are no beer ads on them.*
*As you can see the Alabama uniform is the form of beautiful simplicity, but if you look closely there is a small nike swosh high up on the chest..this concession to the company that provides the uniform led to concerns and complaints about the nascarization of the Alabama uniform.
Priceless.
We will be discussing the issue of pads...I know it's a big hang up, but I would think the uniforms would be of some interest on a site like this...and why there are no beer ads on them.*
*As you can see the Alabama uniform is the form of beautiful simplicity, but if you look closely there is a small nike swosh high up on the chest..this concession to the company that provides the uniform led to concerns and complaints about the nascarization of the Alabama uniform.
Priceless.
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